Fact-checking Dave Ramsey’s reverse mortgage claims | Movement Mortgage | Movement Mortgage Blog (2024)

The federally insured reverse mortgage product known as a Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) has been around for over 30 years. During many of those years, the most vocal critic of the product was author and radio personality Dave Ramsey.

But why is this important to homeowners? Because Ramsey is one of the most listened-to financial gurus on the planet.

Many Ramsey listeners are steered away from using this product because he doesn’t really think it’s a good choice. However, the HECM has actually been enjoyed by many homeowners who overwhelmingly rate themselves as “satisfied” or “highly satisfied” with the results. But there is still a divide between those who think it’s a smart move and those who don’t.

Common misconceptions

Ramsey and his writers at Ramsey Solutions tend to tell older homeowners that, you’ll likely owe more than your home is worth.” Ramsey Solutions also claims, “not only are reverse mortgages a black hole of fees, but your older loved ones could also end up owing more on their home than it’s worth, or worse, losing their home altogether.

Fortunately, both statements conflict with federal law regarding reverse mortgages. One of the first lessons a reverse mortgage prospect learns from their reverse mortgage specialist is that FHA guarantees this cannot happen. In fact, every reverse mortgage applicant is required to complete a HUD-approved counseling session where the non-recourse clause is covered. But remember, EVERY reverse mortgage in America is “non-recourse,” meaning neither the borrower nor their estate will owe more than the home is worth at the time the mortgage is due.

Understanding leverage

The main conflict between Dave Ramsey and reverse mortgages lies in his passionate aversion to debt and his belief that all debt is bad debt. While these concerns are definitely valid (because no one really likes debt), leveraging assets can be a strategic financial move.

Ramsey is actually associated with Churchill Mortgage, a reputable firm that uses debt to achieve the dream of homeownership. In this case, the debt seems to be good or useful in helping people with homeownership.

Consider this scenario example: a retired homeowner with a home valued at $450,000 with no existing mortgage balance. She decides to use some of her equity to pay off $50,000 in medical debt and high-interest-rate consumer debt caused by unforeseen circ*mstances. Keep in mind the resulting HECM balance is financed at 2% to 3% and has no required monthly principal and interest repayment obligation*. It also does not disrupt the homeowner’s traditional retirement plan. In our view, that is a proper use of home equity in retirement.

Unfortunately, because of the misconceptions, some Ramsey followers are so afraid of using the most powerful lever they own (home equity), which could affect their ability to consolidate debt and withstand financial shocks on a fixed income.

When home equity is used as a substitute for withdrawals from retirement accounts, several financial planning researchers have proved that though equity may decrease, there is potential for the overall net worth to increase, which could create greater wealth while alive and is instrumental in leaving a larger legacy for the next generation.

*Qualification is required. Borrower is required to pay all property charges including, but not limited to, property taxes, insurance and maintenance.

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Fact-checking Ramsey’s claims

Let’s fact-check some of Dave Ramsey’s most harmful claims about reverse mortgages.

Claim #1: “Over 100,000 reverse mortgages have failed, resulting in foreclosures and evictions.”

FALSE.

The cited figure is misleading. Yes, in the aftermath of the housing meltdown 12 years ago, there were about 100,000 foreclosures that involved homeowners who had reverse mortgages. However, those foreclosures were not failures of the reverse mortgage.

Almost all those foreclosures occurred from 2008-2012, and almost all of them were what we would describe as “beneficial” or “neutral” foreclosures from the borrower’s perspective. Meaning that there was either more money borrowed than a home sale could satisfy after the death of the last borrower or the foreclosure was the result of property tax default and not because the borrower had a reverse mortgage.

Remember, a reverse mortgage eliminates the required mortgage payment* and gives the borrower cash. This should not make them more likely to default on their tax bill.

*Qualification is required. Borrower is required to pay all property charges including, but not limited to, property taxes, insurance and maintenance.

Claim #2: “If you die before you’ve sold your home, those you leave behind are stuck with two options. They can either pay off the full reverse mortgage and all the interest that’s piled up over the years or surrender your house to the bank.”

FALSE.

This statement is designed to create fear that the reverse mortgage will stick the heirs with a bill or cause them to lose the home.

The US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD - the regulator of the HECM product) and The Federal Housing Administration (FHA, the insurer of the HECM product) allow heirs six months to sell the home and up to two 90-day extensions (up to 12 months) to sell the home. Ramsey doesn’t discuss that this sale is a form of inheritance for the heirs and is a favorable option for them.

Also, most heirs are content to sell the home and receive the remaining equity. Plus, if they sell the home— even if it is underwater— they have the potential for a tax deduction*, too!

*Should not be construed as legal or financial advice. Please consult a tax professional/financial advisor.

Claim #3: “…you won’t qualify for a reverse mortgage if your home is worth more than a certain amount.”

FALSE.

Lenders do not disqualify a borrower for a HECM because their appraisal came in higher than expected. Yes, HUD does establish HECM limits each year. However, when a home appraisal exceeds the HECM limit, this does not hurt the borrower’s chances of qualifying for an HECM in any way.

For example, the HECM product in 2021 provides insurance to the lender of the home’s value up to $822,375. This limit simply restricts the home value to $822,375 when calculating the proceeds.

For example, a borrower with a $1m home who qualifies for proceeds of 60% will not qualify for $600,000 in principal. Rather, they will qualify for 60% of $822,375, or $493,425. In essence, a borrower with a home value that exceeds $822,375 has simply maximized their initial principal limit for this product.

Other false claims

While we won’t have time to cover each false claim in detail, here are some other notable past statements from Dave Ramsey and Ramsey Solutions that unfairly downplay the HECM product:

“…you’ll pay a hefty mortgage insurance premium that protects the lender (not you) against any losses.”

FALSE. The primary purpose of the Mortgage Insurance Premium (MIP) is to pay for losses resulting from the non-recourse nature of the product. This is primarily for the benefit of the borrower and their heirs, as well as the investor who owns the paper. That lender would likely not have made that same loan—for the benefit of the borrower without the guarantee from the FHA mortgage insurance.

“You are also required to take a loan for the maximum amount you qualify for.”

FALSE. This is not only false, but the Federal Government PROHIBITS borrowers from taking all the proceeds upfront unless needed to pay off large mortgage balances at closing. This has been HUD’s policy since 2013 called “initial disbursem*nt limits.”

“The interest rates that they’re calculated at are horrendously bad.”

FALSE. For most of the years since the beginning in 1988, HECM rates have been at, or below, conforming interest rates.

“Servicing fees. These are another monthly expense coming your way with a reverse mortgage.”

FALSE. While HUD permits the use of Servicing Fees, we haven't seen a HECM servicing fee in over ten years.

Remember, it’s YOUR retirement

The federally insured reverse mortgage product is continually being improved with new consumer protections and long-term advantages for those who wish to age in place. It’s important to do your own research and not let everything you hear from others impact your retirement cash flow decisions.

Want to learn more about how a reverse mortgage might work for you? Reach out to a Movement Mortgage loan officer near you today!

*This material has not been reviewed, approved, or issued by HUD, FHA, or any government agency

Fact-checking Dave Ramsey’s reverse mortgage claims | Movement Mortgage | Movement Mortgage Blog (2024)

FAQs

Why are so many people disappointed by reverse mortgages? ›

Smaller Inheritances and Greater Hassles for Any Heirs

A reverse mortgage can also deplete much of the homeowner's wealth, especially if their home is basically all they have, leaving little behind for their heirs.

What is the dark side of reverse mortgage? ›

A reverse mortgage isn't free money: The borrowing costs can be high, and you'll still need to pay for homeowners insurance and property taxes. Reverse mortgages can also complicate life for your heirs, especially if they don't want the home or the home's value isn't enough to cover what's owed.

Why do banks not recommend reverse mortgages? ›

While a reverse mortgage lets you access your equity without selling your house right away, it can be financially risky: A reverse mortgage increases your debt and can use up your equity. While the amount is based on your equity, you're still borrowing the money and paying the lender a fee and interest.

Who is the best person to talk to about reverse mortgages? ›

To find a reverse mortgage counselor near you, search the HECM Counselor Roster or call (800) 569-4287. To find a reverse mortgage counselor that provides telephone and face-to-face counseling nationwide, use the HUD Intermediaries Providing HECM Counseling Nationwide list.

How many people have lost their homes due to a reverse mortgage? ›

A USA TODAY review of government foreclosure data between 2013 and 2017 found that nearly 100,000 reverse mortgage loans have failed, burdening elderly borrowers and their families and causing property values in their neighborhoods to crater.

What does Suze Orman say about reverse mortgages? ›

Taking a loan too early

The earliest a homeowner is eligible to take out a reverse mortgage is age 62, but Orman considers it risky to do so. "If you tap all your home equity through a reverse at 62 and then at 72 you realize you can't really afford the home, you will have to sell the home," she said.

What's the catch with chip reverse mortgage? ›

Cons. Higher interest rates compared to traditional mortgages and some HELOCs. Fees that could add thousands of dollars to the cost of your reverse mortgage. Exchanges long-term equity growth for short-term financial flexibility.

Can you lose your house with a reverse mortgage? ›

Just like a traditional mortgage, with a HECM you are borrowing money and using your home as security for the loan. You must continue to pay for property taxes, homeowner's insurance, and make repairs needed to maintain your home or the lender can foreclose on the home.

What happens if you live too long on a reverse mortgage? ›

If the end of your term is up before you pass away, then you have outlived your reverse mortgage proceeds. With a term payment plan, you reach your loan's principal limit—the maximum that you can borrow—at the end of the term. After that, you won't be able to receive additional proceeds from your reverse mortgage.

What is the 60% rule for reverse mortgage? ›

According to this rule, the initial amount that a homeowner can borrow through a reverse mortgage is limited to 60% of the home's appraised value or the maximum claim amount, whichever is less.

What is better than a reverse mortgage? ›

Alternatives to a reverse mortgage include home equity loan, home equity lines of credit, and cash-out refinances. These financial products can help you tap the equity in your home to use as cash for other purposes. Learn more about the pros and cons to different alternatives to a reverse mortgage.

Who is not a good candidate for a reverse mortgage? ›

Who is not a good candidate for a reverse mortgage? A reverse mortgage is a questionable proposition if you have sufficient income to pay your bills or are willing to sell your home to tap into the equity. If that's the case, it may make more sense to just sell it and downsize your home.

What is the bad part of reverse mortgages? ›

Reverse mortgages have extremely high fees compared with other options and are usually a bad idea for most people. They are an especially bad idea for anyone with a family home that they want to leave to their heirs.

What is the current reverse mortgage interest rate? ›

Jumbo Reverse Mortgage Rates
Fixed RateAdjustable RateLending Limit
8.990% (9.075% APR)11.795% (6.625 Margin)$4,000,000
9.250% (9.737% APR)11.920% (6.750 Margin)$4,000,000
9.690% (9.775% APR)12.045% (6.875 Margin)$4,000,000
10.250% (10.831% APR)$4,000,000

What happens to a reverse mortgage upon death? ›

When you – and any co-borrower(s) or an eligible non-borrowing spouse as applicable – have passed away, your reverse mortgage loan becomes due and payable. Your heirs have 30 days from receiving the due and payable notice from the lender to buy, sell, or turn the home over to the lender to satisfy the debt.

Why do people get out of reverse mortgages? ›

Reasons For Exiting A Reverse Mortgage

Some common reasons include: You may need to move into a nursing home or assisted living. You have “buyer's remorse.” You realize your reverse mortgage proceeds aren't enough to stay current with your homeowners insurance, property taxes and home maintenance costs.

Who benefits most from a reverse mortgage? ›

The reverse mortgage is most suitable for homeowners looking to remain in their home but see a need or benefit of having additional funds available. They do not want to have the burden of monthly mortgage payments in their monthly budget.

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